Compare Garmin Forerunner 165 vs Suunto Race 2

Garmin Forerunner 165

Garmin Forerunner 165

Overall score 4.3 / 5

Based on 20 scored reviews

vs
Suunto Race 2

Suunto Race 2

Overall score 4.0 / 5

Based on 17 scored reviews

How we score

Scorata scores summarize analyzed review evidence on a 1–5 scale; they are not laboratory measurements or a simple average of customer star ratings. Feature scores summarize the reviews covering that feature. The overall score averages feature scores within each review, then combines review averages. When both expert and customer evidence are available, those two groups receive equal weight. Products can have different review coverage, so small score gaps do not establish a winner.

Recommendations prioritize important features for the category, with a score of at least 3.5, a gap of at least 0.25 points and at least two supporting reviews per product. Features with widely varying scores or broad connectivity contexts are excluded from recommendations. These safeguards do not establish statistical significance.

Quick verdict

What each product is best for

The review evidence points to a tradeoff: heart rate accuracy and comfort versus battery life and workout tracking variety. Choose according to which strengths matter more to you; the overall score alone does not settle that choice.

Choose Garmin Forerunner 165 for heart rate accuracy and comfort.

Choose Suunto Race 2 for battery life and workout tracking variety.

Why these recommendations?

Garmin Forerunner 165

Where It Has the Edge

  • heart rate accuracy is 4.3 vs 4.1. Heart-rate accuracy was generally praised across runs, rides, and intervals, with only occasional optical-sensor lag or spikes.
  • comfort is 4.9 vs 4.5. Comfort was consistently excellent, with reviewers praising the lightweight feel for all-day wear and sleep.
  • coaching features is 4.6 vs 4.1. Coaching and structured workouts were praised as approachable, flexible, and valuable for beginner and intermediate runners.

Suunto Race 2

Where It Has the Edge

  • battery life is 4.8 vs 4.2. Battery life was one of the clearest strengths, with reviewers repeatedly praising endurance, long GPS runtime, and multi-day...
  • workout tracking variety is 4.6 vs 3.6. Workout variety was consistently praised, with reviewers highlighting broad sport-profile coverage and comprehensive tracking for mainstream and niche...
  • charging convenience is 4.6 vs 3.3. Charging convenience improved substantially, with reviewers praising the redesigned magnetic charger and more secure dock.
Garmin Forerunner 165 4.3 overall score
Suunto Race 2 4.0 overall score

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Scores are out of 5. Missing scores mean missing review evidence, not a missing feature.

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Tracking and training

Heart rate accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Heart-rate accuracy was generally praised across runs, rides, and intervals, with only occasional optical-sensor lag or spikes.

Suunto Race 2
4.1

Heart-rate accuracy was the most debated upgrade: many reviewers called it a major improvement or accurate enough for training, while several still found unreliable readings in hard efforts or certain workouts.

GPS accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

GPS accuracy was one of the strongest themes, with most reviewers finding reliable tracks even without dual-band GPS; a few dense-terrain issues remained.

Suunto Race 2
4.3

GPS accuracy was generally strong, especially for land workouts, but several reviewers saw small errors, worse open-water results, or a slight step back from past Suunto performance.

Fitness tracking accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.8

Fitness tracking accuracy was praised for broad data quality and even strength-training rep counting in testing.

Suunto Race 2
4.2

One reviewer tied the improved sensors to more meaningful health and training feedback, suggesting better fitness-tracking usefulness than the older model.

Sleep tracking accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.8

Sleep tracking was mostly viewed as useful and directionally accurate, though one reviewer reported a poor night that the watch missed.

Suunto Race 2
3.6

Sleep tracking drew split feedback, with some reviewers praising sleep timing or nap detection while others reported missed awakenings, hit-or-miss nights, or overly ambitious deep-sleep estimates.

Workout tracking variety
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.6

Workout variety covers most mainstream running, gym, cycling, swimming, and fitness needs, but reviewers consistently noted missing triathlon or backcountry profiles.

Suunto Race 2
4.6

Workout variety was consistently praised, with reviewers highlighting broad sport-profile coverage and comprehensive tracking for mainstream and niche activities.

Coaching features
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.6

Coaching and structured workouts were praised as approachable, flexible, and valuable for beginner and intermediate runners.

Suunto Race 2
4.1

Coaching features were seen as helpful for interpreting training and recovery, especially for runners, though the evidence favored practical context over advanced smartwatch coaching.

Recovery insights
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.1

Recovery insights were useful but clearly limited versus higher Forerunners, with some reviewers calling out missing readiness/load tools or odd recovery estimates.

Suunto Race 2
2.8

Recovery insights were mixed: reviewers liked the training context but criticized confusing TrainingPeaks terms, overly optimistic resources, and presentation that was hard to parse.

Health tracking accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Reviewers described the Forerunner 165 as having reliable sensors and detailed data collection for general health and fitness tracking.

Suunto Race 2
2.0

One review raised broad tracking concerns, saying steps, calories and heart rate needed improvement rather than treating the watch as fully dependable for health metrics.

Step counting accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Step counting was reported as close to other tested devices.

Suunto Race 2
2.0

Step counting was a recurring weak spot in the evidence, with reviewers saying the Race 2 miscalculated steps or produced very low counts.

Stress tracking
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Stress tracking was mentioned as part of the watch's helpful health-glance system for knowing when to ease off.

Suunto Race 2
2.5

Stress-related HRV insight was viewed as underexplained, with one reviewer saying the daily average lacks enough context for new users.

Wellness insights
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Wellness insights such as Morning Report and Body Battery were considered fun, useful, and sometimes addictive.

Suunto Race 2
3.5

Wellness insights were useful but not universally trusted, with one reviewer valuing HRV and another finding resources too generous.

Comfort and build

Comfort
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.9

Comfort was consistently excellent, with reviewers praising the lightweight feel for all-day wear and sleep.

Suunto Race 2
4.5

Comfort was mostly positive thanks to the thinner case, lighter feel and improved wrist fit, though size and strap choices still mattered.

Materials quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
2.8

Materials quality was mixed: plastic kept it light and affordable but felt less premium.

Suunto Race 2
4.5

Materials quality received positive evidence from the feel of the metal buttons and digital crown.

Fit
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.8

Fit was strong for many wrists, with secure wear and little slipping, though the single case size remained a caveat.

Suunto Race 2
4.0

Fit was positive in one review because the large watch still did not feel too large on the wrist.

Water resistance
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Water resistance was considered more than enough for rain, sweat, showering, and swimming use.

Suunto Race 2
5.0

Water resistance was viewed positively, with one review highlighting serious waterproof credentials.

Band quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.1

Band quality was mostly comfortable and flexible, but one reviewer warned the stock strap needs frequent washing to avoid irritation.

Suunto Race 2
3.5

Band quality was mixed: some liked the stock silicone strap, while others disliked the pin fastening, fiddly buckle, or overall band feel.

Build quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Build quality was viewed as solid and well-made for a lightweight running watch.

Suunto Race 2
4.8

Build quality was strongly praised, with reviewers calling the hardware premium, sturdy, and well matched to smooth software.

Durability
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.8

Durability was reassuring, with reviewers reporting no concerns and even real-world abuse without damage.

Suunto Race 2
4.7

Durability was praised, with reviewers describing the watch as hard to kill and resistant to visible wear during testing.

Size options
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.2

Size options were limited because the watch comes in only one size, though one reviewer liked the in-between fit.

Suunto Race 2
3.0

Size options were a caveat because reviewers noted the 49mm case can feel big for smaller wrists.

Style and design
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Style and design were viewed as slim, low-profile, sleek, and suitable for daily wear, though still sporty.

Suunto Race 2
4.6

Style and design were widely praised, with reviewers calling the Race 2 sleek, gorgeous, modern, robust, and premium-looking.

Battery and charging

Battery life
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.2

Battery life was generally good for an AMOLED Garmin and daily training, but reviewers flagged limits for long adventures, always-on use, or heavy GPS/music.

Suunto Race 2
4.8

Battery life was one of the clearest strengths, with reviewers repeatedly praising endurance, long GPS runtime, and multi-day use.

Charging convenience
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

Charging convenience was mixed: secure contacts helped, but the proprietary/short cable was a drawback.

Suunto Race 2
4.6

Charging convenience improved substantially, with reviewers praising the redesigned magnetic charger and more secure dock.

Charging speed
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Charging speed was praised in the reviews that discussed it, ranging from under two hours to very fast top-ups.

Suunto Race 2
5.0

Charging speed was praised as fast enough for quick top-ups before long GPS days.

Performance

Display quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.9

Display quality was a standout strength thanks to a crisp, vibrant AMOLED screen, though one reviewer still preferred MIP for always-visible use.

Suunto Race 2
4.9

Display quality was one of the strongest points, repeatedly described as bright, sharp, readable, stunning, and easy to use during training.

Brightness
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.7

Brightness was strongly praised in sunlight and adaptive lighting conditions.

Suunto Race 2
5.0

Brightness received explicit praise, with one reviewer calling the display brightness unusually strong.

Outdoor visibility
Garmin Forerunner 165
5.0

Outdoor visibility was excellent in direct sun and bright conditions.

Suunto Race 2
4.9

Outdoor visibility was consistently excellent, with reviewers reporting easy readability in bright sun and direct sunlight.

Ownership and support

Reliability
Garmin Forerunner 165
5.0

Reliability was praised in workout use, with one reviewer reporting no issues with stability.

Suunto Race 2
4.5

Reliability was positive in one review that reported no lag, freezes, unexplained shutdowns, or transfer issues.

Value for money
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.6

Value for money was one of the strongest areas, with reviewers repeatedly calling it a high-value or sweet-spot Garmin.

Suunto Race 2
4.2

Value was generally strong but price-sensitive: many reviewers found it competitive or worthwhile, while a few noted the price jump weakened the bargain angle.

Other features

Safety features
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Safety features such as LiveTrack were valued for sharing location during activities.

Suunto Race 2
1.5

Safety features drew a serious concern from one reviewer about exposed public activity start and end positions.

Controls and connectivity

Touchscreen responsiveness
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.6

Touchscreen responsiveness was widely praised, including smooth swiping, reliable taps, and usability with gloves or wet screens.

Suunto Race 2
2.5

Touchscreen responsiveness was criticized in one review for being too sensitive and prone to accidental inputs.

Contactless payments
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Garmin Pay was viewed as a straightforward, effective contactless payment feature.

Suunto Race 2
2.0

Contactless payments were called out as missing, contributing to the watch's limited smartwatch feature set.

Smartphone notifications
Garmin Forerunner 165
5.0

Smartphone notifications were described as reliable and easier to read on the AMOLED display.

Suunto Race 2
3.0

Smartphone notifications were described as basic because the watch can display them but not respond from the wrist.

Watch face quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
5.0

Watch face quality was praised for full customization.

Suunto Race 2
3.0

Watch faces were generally seen as basic or lightly customizable, with limited options compared with Garmin or COROS.

Customization options
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.7

Customization was a strength, from watch faces and widgets to activity screens and data pages.

Suunto Race 2
2.9

Customization was uneven: reviewers liked some configurable widgets and screens but criticized limited watch-face options, sport-mode setup friction, and direct customization limits.

Smartwatch features
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Smartwatch features were considered respectable for a training watch, especially notifications, Garmin Pay, music features, and basic phone-linked tools.

Suunto Race 2
2.2

Smartwatch features were consistently limited, with reviewers repeatedly noting that the Race 2 is training-first rather than a phone-like smartwatch.

User interface
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.7

The interface was repeatedly described as simple, approachable, and easy to use.

Suunto Race 2
2.9

User interface feedback was split, ranging from easy and sensible on runs to clunky, unintuitive, or difficult to get used to.

Menu navigation
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Menu navigation was considered intuitive after a short adjustment period.

Suunto Race 2
2.8

Menu navigation was mixed: some controls were manageable after learning, while the sports menu and many submenus frustrated reviewers.

Music controls
Garmin Forerunner 165
2.0

Music controls were criticized as unintuitive during runs.

Suunto Race 2
3.5

Music controls were considered acceptable for basic phone control, but not a deeper music experience.

App ecosystem
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

The app ecosystem was useful through Connect IQ and Garmin features, but Garmin's broader platform could still feel intimidating.

Suunto Race 2
4.5

The app ecosystem received positive evidence from SuuntoPlus, with one reviewer saying integrations made the watch feel less insular than rival fitness watches.

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Onboard music storage
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.2

Onboard music storage drew split views: handy or smooth for some, but tedious and poor value for others.

Suunto Race 2
2.0

Onboard music storage was a repeated shortcoming, with reviewers noting that offline playback is not available despite expectations for a premium sports watch.

Button controls
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.9

Button controls were a major strength, especially for workouts, gloves, sweat, rain, and avoiding touchscreen reliance.

Suunto Race 2
3.8

Button controls were mostly praised as clicky and usable during activity, though one reviewer had a sticky-button problem.

Operating system experience
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The operating experience was familiar and straightforward for Garmin users.

Suunto Race 2
5.0

The operating system experience was praised in one review as one of the best fitness-first watch systems.

Pairing reliability
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Pairing reliability for headphones was described as generally solid.

Suunto Race 2
4.8

Pairing reliability was praised for easy external sensor connections and the ability to manage multiple sensors of the same type.

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Bluetooth connectivity
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Bluetooth headphone pairing was reported to work without problems.

Suunto Race 2
4.5

Bluetooth connectivity evidence was positive in one review, where phone pairing was described as simple.

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Third-party app support
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

Third-party app/widget support was available and sometimes useful for tailoring data, though one reviewer did not find it especially useful.

Suunto Race 2
3.8

Third-party app support was mixed: SuuntoPlus integrations impressed one reviewer, while another found the two-app limit restrictive.

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Companion app quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.1

Garmin Connect was seen as powerful and useful, with cleaner or comprehensive analysis, though one reviewer found the redesign not much easier.

Suunto Race 2
3.7

The companion app was mixed but often useful: some praised route playback, readable analysis, streamlining and polish, while others saw mismatched stats or a basic app.

Wi-Fi connectivity
Garmin Forerunner 165
2.0

Wi-Fi/music setup drew criticism when troubleshooting made the watch appear connected even though playlist syncing failed.

Suunto Race 2
2.3

Wi-Fi connectivity was a recurring map-download annoyance, with reviewers describing slow downloads, cumbersome syncing, or trouble on weak networks.

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Mapping and navigation
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Mapping and navigation were useful for breadcrumb routes and GPX/course following, but the lack of full maps was a repeated limitation.

Suunto Race 2
4.1

Mapping and navigation were a major strength once maps were loaded, but reviewers also noted non-routable maps, slow downloads, and missing labels or POIs.

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Software smoothness
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Software smoothness was praised as simple, fast, and accurate in use.

Suunto Race 2
4.6

Software smoothness was widely praised as improved, with reviewers noting slicker widgets, smoother scrolling, and little delay.

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Tracking and training

Blood oxygen tracking
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Blood oxygen tracking was treated as a useful extra by reviewers who valued the reassurance, though broader accuracy was not deeply tested.

Suunto Race 2No score yet
Calorie tracking usefulness
Garmin Forerunner 165No score yet
Suunto Race 2
2.0

Calorie tracking was criticized in one review for producing numbers that appeared much too high.

Other features

Cross-platform compatibility
Garmin Forerunner 165No score yet
Suunto Race 2
4.0

Cross-platform compatibility was supported by positive evidence for importing and sharing workout data through services such as Strava.

Flashlight usefulness
Garmin Forerunner 165No score yet
Suunto Race 2
5.0

The flashlight mode was strongly praised by one reviewer as unexpectedly handy and bright enough for real use.

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