Compare Garmin Forerunner 165 vs Apple Watch Ultra 2

Garmin Forerunner 165

Garmin Forerunner 165

Overall score 4.3 / 5

Based on 20 scored reviews

vs
Apple Watch Ultra 2

Apple Watch Ultra 2

Overall score 3.9 / 5

Based on 23 scored reviews

How we score

Scorata scores summarize analyzed review evidence on a 1–5 scale; they are not laboratory measurements or a simple average of customer star ratings. Feature scores summarize the reviews covering that feature. The overall score averages feature scores within each review, then combines review averages. When both expert and customer evidence are available, those two groups receive equal weight. Products can have different review coverage, so small score gaps do not establish a winner.

Recommendations prioritize important features for the category, with a score of at least 3.5, a gap of at least 0.25 points and at least two supporting reviews per product. Features with widely varying scores or broad connectivity contexts are excluded from recommendations. These safeguards do not establish statistical significance.

Quick verdict

What each product is best for

The review evidence points to a tradeoff: comfort and coaching features versus heart rate accuracy and GPS accuracy. Choose according to which strengths matter more to you; the overall score alone does not settle that choice.

Choose Garmin Forerunner 165 for comfort and coaching features.

Choose Apple Watch Ultra 2 for heart rate accuracy and GPS accuracy.

Why these recommendations?

Garmin Forerunner 165

Where It Has the Edge

  • comfort is 4.9 vs 3.3. Comfort was consistently excellent, with reviewers praising the lightweight feel for all-day wear and sleep.
  • coaching features is 4.6 vs 4.3. Coaching and structured workouts were praised as approachable, flexible, and valuable for beginner and intermediate runners.
  • button controls is 4.9 vs 3.9. Button controls were a major strength, especially for workouts, gloves, sweat, rain, and avoiding touchscreen reliance.

Apple Watch Ultra 2

Where It Has the Edge

  • heart rate accuracy is 4.8 vs 4.3. Heart-rate tracking was one of the strongest areas, with multiple reviewers reporting close agreement with chest straps or...
  • GPS accuracy is 4.8 vs 4.5. GPS accuracy received strong agreement, with reviewers praising dual-frequency/multiband performance against Garmin watches, distance tests, and difficult environments.
  • materials quality is 4.5 vs 2.8. Materials quality was strong, with reviewers praising titanium, premium feel, and classy finishes.
Garmin Forerunner 165 4.3 overall score
Apple Watch Ultra 2 3.9 overall score

Compare features

Scores are out of 5. Missing scores mean missing review evidence, not a missing feature.

Scored on both products

Tracking and training

Heart rate accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Heart-rate accuracy was generally praised across runs, rides, and intervals, with only occasional optical-sensor lag or spikes.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.8

Heart-rate tracking was one of the strongest areas, with multiple reviewers reporting close agreement with chest straps or other control devices.

GPS accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

GPS accuracy was one of the strongest themes, with most reviewers finding reliable tracks even without dual-band GPS; a few dense-terrain issues remained.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.8

GPS accuracy received strong agreement, with reviewers praising dual-frequency/multiband performance against Garmin watches, distance tests, and difficult environments.

Sleep tracking accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.8

Sleep tracking was mostly viewed as useful and directionally accurate, though one reviewer reported a poor night that the watch missed.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.0

Sleep tracking was generally seen as accurate for sleep/wake timing and duration, though some reviewers still wanted richer guidance from the data.

Fitness tracking accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.8

Fitness tracking accuracy was praised for broad data quality and even strength-training rep counting in testing.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.7

Fitness tracking accuracy was praised, especially for workout pulse, path snapping, GPS syncing, and broad activity tracking.

Recovery insights
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.1

Recovery insights were useful but clearly limited versus higher Forerunners, with some reviewers calling out missing readiness/load tools or odd recovery estimates.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
2.0

Recovery insights were a repeated weakness; reviewers wanted Garmin/Whoop-style readiness, training effect, and recovery interpretation.

Workout tracking variety
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.6

Workout variety covers most mainstream running, gym, cycling, swimming, and fitness needs, but reviewers consistently noted missing triathlon or backcountry profiles.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.3

Workout variety was viewed as strong for mainstream training, with varied sport modes and enough running coverage for most non-specialists.

Coaching features
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.6

Coaching and structured workouts were praised as approachable, flexible, and valuable for beginner and intermediate runners.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.3

Coaching features improved with Training Load, perceived effort, and structured workout support, though evidence suggests they still sit below specialist training platforms.

Blood oxygen tracking
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Blood oxygen tracking was treated as a useful extra by reviewers who valued the reassurance, though broader accuracy was not deeply tested.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
2.0

Blood oxygen tracking drew negative evidence in older reviews because patent-dispute availability issues frustrated users who wanted the feature.

Wellness insights
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Wellness insights such as Morning Report and Body Battery were considered fun, useful, and sometimes addictive.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
2.9

Wellness insights were mixed: Vitals and glanceable health context were useful, but Apple Health was criticized for weak interpretation and poor user-friendliness.

Health tracking accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Reviewers described the Forerunner 165 as having reliable sensors and detailed data collection for general health and fitness tracking.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

Reviewers found the Ultra 2’s health tracking credible for sleep-related disturbances and general health metrics, with heart-rate-linked data repeatedly described as accurate.

Stress tracking
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Stress tracking was mentioned as part of the watch's helpful health-glance system for knowing when to ease off.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.0

Mood and mindfulness tools were viewed positively when reviewers discussed clearing the mind or logging moods, though this evidence is more about mindfulness than advanced stress analytics.

Comfort and build

Comfort
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.9

Comfort was consistently excellent, with reviewers praising the lightweight feel for all-day wear and sleep.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
3.3

Comfort was mixed: some found the Ultra 2 comfortable, while others noted crown irritation, tugging, or adjustment time from the large case.

Materials quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
2.8

Materials quality was mixed: plastic kept it light and affordable but felt less premium.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

Materials quality was strong, with reviewers praising titanium, premium feel, and classy finishes.

Size options
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.2

Size options were limited because the watch comes in only one size, though one reviewer liked the in-between fit.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
2.1

Size options were a repeated drawback because the Ultra 2 is only offered in a large 49mm case.

Style and design
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Style and design were viewed as slim, low-profile, sleek, and suitable for daily wear, though still sporty.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
3.8

Style and design were split by finish: reviewers liked the sleek black look, but some noticed scuffs more easily.

Build quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Build quality was viewed as solid and well-made for a lightweight running watch.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.7

Build quality was praised for the rugged titanium case, premium construction, and confidence in harsh environments.

Fit
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.8

Fit was strong for many wrists, with secure wear and little slipping, though the single case size remained a caveat.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
5.0

Fit was praised in one outdoor-focused review for staying secure during daily use and activity.

Band quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.1

Band quality was mostly comfortable and flexible, but one reviewer warned the stock strap needs frequent washing to avoid irritation.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.2

Band quality was generally positive across Trail, Alpine, and Milanese-style bands, though sweat absorption and muted colors created caveats.

Durability
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.8

Durability was reassuring, with reviewers reporting no concerns and even real-world abuse without damage.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.9

Durability was strong overall, with evidence of no scuffs, no visible wear, and confidence against daily abuse.

Water resistance
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Water resistance was considered more than enough for rain, sweat, showering, and swimming use.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.3

Water resistance and dive support were viewed positively, especially for recreational diving and Apple Watch-leading water friendliness.

Battery and charging

Battery life
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.2

Battery life was generally good for an AMOLED Garmin and daily training, but reviewers flagged limits for long adventures, always-on use, or heavy GPS/music.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.1

Battery life had the most evidence: excellent for an Apple Watch and anxiety-reducing for many reviewers, but still short versus Garmin-style endurance watches.

Charging convenience
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

Charging convenience was mixed: secure contacts helped, but the proprietary/short cable was a drawback.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.3

Charging convenience was helped by multi-day use and quick top-ups, though reviewers still noted the need to manage charging.

Charging speed
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Charging speed was praised in the reviews that discussed it, ranging from under two hours to very fast top-ups.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.0

Charging speed was acceptable but not class-leading, with about 90 minutes to full and slower fast charging than Series 10.

Performance

Display quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.9

Display quality was a standout strength thanks to a crisp, vibrant AMOLED screen, though one reviewer still preferred MIP for always-visible use.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
5.0

Display quality was one of the strongest consensus areas, with reviewers repeatedly calling the screen excellent, impressive, and among the best on any smartwatch.

Brightness
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.7

Brightness was strongly praised in sunlight and adaptive lighting conditions.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

Brightness was praised for the 3,000-nit upgrade and outdoor readability, though a few reviewers found the improvement subtle in practice.

Outdoor visibility
Garmin Forerunner 165
5.0

Outdoor visibility was excellent in direct sun and bright conditions.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
5.0

Outdoor visibility was excellent, with reviewers reporting easy screen reading in bright conditions.

Ownership and support

Reliability
Garmin Forerunner 165
5.0

Reliability was praised in workout use, with one reviewer reporting no issues with stability.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
3.8

Reliability evidence was positive for specific features working well, but navigation/user-error risks kept it from being flawless.

Value for money
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.6

Value for money was one of the strongest areas, with reviewers repeatedly calling it a high-value or sweet-spot Garmin.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
3.2

Value for money was mixed: some reviewers saw strong value for the feature set, while others said upgrades or the $799 price were hard to justify.

Controls and connectivity

Music controls
Garmin Forerunner 165
2.0

Music controls were criticized as unintuitive during runs.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.8

Music controls and playback improved, with reviewers liking speaker playback and using the watch for audio without a phone or headphones.

App ecosystem
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

The app ecosystem was useful through Connect IQ and Garmin features, but Garmin's broader platform could still feel intimidating.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
5.0

The app ecosystem was framed as a major advantage of the Ultra 2 as part of Apple’s broader smartwatch platform.

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Mapping and navigation
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Mapping and navigation were useful for breadcrumb routes and GPX/course following, but the lack of full maps was a repeated limitation.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
2.5

Mapping and navigation were the most mixed outdoor feature: useful for casual hikers, but limited by phone dependence, basic compass navigation, and uneven topo detail.

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Third-party app support
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

Third-party app/widget support was available and sometimes useful for tailoring data, though one reviewer did not find it especially useful.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.8

Third-party app support was a standout, with reviewers praising the selection and the ability to fill mapping or sports gaps with apps.

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Onboard music storage
Garmin Forerunner 165
3.2

Onboard music storage drew split views: handy or smooth for some, but tedious and poor value for others.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

Onboard music storage was viewed positively because the increased storage helps offline media use.

User interface
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.7

The interface was repeatedly described as simple, approachable, and easy to use.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
3.5

The user interface was mostly easy to learn, but Apple Health organization drew criticism for feeling messy.

Button controls
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.9

Button controls were a major strength, especially for workouts, gloves, sweat, rain, and avoiding touchscreen reliance.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
3.9

Button controls were mixed: the Action Button, crown, and Double Tap were often useful, but some reviewers forgot or underused them.

Contactless payments
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Garmin Pay was viewed as a straightforward, effective contactless payment feature.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
5.0

Contactless payments were praised as part of Apple’s top-tier smartwatch services and general usability advantage.

Smartwatch features
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Smartwatch features were considered respectable for a training watch, especially notifications, Garmin Pay, music features, and basic phone-linked tools.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
5.0

Smartwatch features were consistently praised, especially the Apple ecosystem, app support, connectivity, and day-to-day versatility.

Smartphone notifications
Garmin Forerunner 165
5.0

Smartphone notifications were described as reliable and easier to read on the AMOLED display.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.3

Smartphone notifications were useful, especially with Double Tap and fast notification replies, and reviewers treated them as part of the watch’s everyday strength.

Pairing reliability
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Pairing reliability for headphones was described as generally solid.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

Pairing reliability had one direct positive setup impression, with the watch pairing smoothly in the reviewer’s test.

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Watch face quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
5.0

Watch face quality was praised for full customization.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

Watch face quality was praised, especially Modular Ultra and Night Mode presentation on the large display.

Companion app quality
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.1

Garmin Connect was seen as powerful and useful, with cleaner or comprehensive analysis, though one reviewer found the redesign not much easier.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
3.8

Companion app quality was split: Apple Health was praised by one reviewer, while another disliked fragmented data across apps.

Operating system experience
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The operating experience was familiar and straightforward for Garmin users.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.3

The operating system experience was positive overall, with watchOS and Smart Stack improving everyday usability.

Software smoothness
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Software smoothness was praised as simple, fast, and accurate in use.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.7

Software smoothness was consistently strong, with reviewers describing the watch as zippy, responsive, snappy, and lag-free.

Customization options
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.7

Customization was a strength, from watch faces and widgets to activity screens and data pages.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

Customization options were strong through Modular Ultra complications, widgets, and configurable watch layouts.

Touchscreen responsiveness
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.6

Touchscreen responsiveness was widely praised, including smooth swiping, reliable taps, and usability with gloves or wet screens.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.8

Touchscreen responsiveness was praised for accurate, hassle-free input and joy-to-use responsiveness.

Bluetooth connectivity
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Bluetooth headphone pairing was reported to work without problems.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.0

Bluetooth connectivity received limited but positive evidence around cycling accessory support, especially power meters.

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Menu navigation
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Menu navigation was considered intuitive after a short adjustment period.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

Menu navigation evidence was positive around Smart Stack surfacing useful information at the right time.

Other features

Safety features
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Safety features such as LiveTrack were valued for sharing location during activities.

Apple Watch Ultra 2
5.0

Safety features were a clear strength, with siren, waypoints, crash/fall detection, and personal-safety framing earning praise.

Evidence available for one product

Other features

Activity auto-detection
Garmin Forerunner 165No score yet
Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

Activity auto-detection worked well in the evidence, with brisk walks automatically logged into the user’s activity rings.

Cross-platform compatibility
Garmin Forerunner 165No score yet
Apple Watch Ultra 2
1.5

Cross-platform compatibility was a clear drawback because reviewers called iPhone dependence a real disadvantage for Android users.

ECG functionality
Garmin Forerunner 165No score yet
Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

ECG was treated as part of Apple Watch’s serious health-safety suite, with reviewers connecting it to potentially life-saving monitoring.

LTE connectivity
Garmin Forerunner 165No score yet
Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

LTE connectivity was treated as a practical strength, supporting calls, streaming, messaging, and phone-free smartwatch use.

Controls and connectivity

Call handling
Garmin Forerunner 165No score yet
Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.5

Call handling was strong in the evidence, with a test call described as clear, loud, and phone-like to the person on the other end.

Voice assistant quality
Garmin Forerunner 165No score yet
Apple Watch Ultra 2
3.9

Voice assistant quality improved with on-device Siri and faster responses, but dictation and offline capabilities still had occasional limits.

Wi-Fi connectivity
Garmin Forerunner 165
2.0

Wi-Fi/music setup drew criticism when troubleshooting made the watch appear connected even though playlist syncing failed.

Apple Watch Ultra 2No score yet

Review contexts may differ, so use caution when interpreting the score gap.

Tracking and training

Calorie tracking usefulness
Garmin Forerunner 165No score yet
Apple Watch Ultra 2
4.0

Calorie tracking appears within Apple’s rings system and was judged useful as part of the broader activity-motivation loop.

Step counting accuracy
Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Step counting was reported as close to other tested devices.

Apple Watch Ultra 2No score yet

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