Average score
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.2
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.3
Fresh Liquid Pickup Speed
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.0
Fresh spill handling was weak in one home test, where porridge, sauce, and milk were spread rather than cleaned up.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.4
Fresh liquid pickup was strong in one test where milk and soy sauce were removed in a single sweep.
Low-profile design
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
The low-profile retractable LiDAR design was repeatedly praised for reaching under furniture and low-clearance areas.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.5
The robot’s height limited low-profile access under some low furniture.
Suitability for small spaces
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Small-space suitability was positive because reviewers found the low-profile robot and compact dock easier to place.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.5
Small-space suitability was limited by the bulky robot/dock footprint.
Filtration / Dust Containment
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Dust containment evidence was positive around the self-sealing bags and mess-free replacement.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.5
Dust containment was a weakness in one owner review because hair and dust could spill when the bin was partly full.
Ongoing ownership costs (bags, filters, batteries)
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.0
Ongoing costs were a concern in one review because the recommended Roborock detergent was described as very expensive.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.0
Ownership costs and parts availability were considered reasonable by one reviewer, though not cheap.
Storage footprint and upright-stand stability
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Storage footprint feedback was positive, with one reviewer saying the unit was designed to take up as little space as possible.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.6
Several reviewers called the dock or full unit large, chunky, or conspicuous, especially for smaller homes.
Edge‑Following Accuracy (Robot)
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.0
One reviewer found the robot sometimes avoided legs and furniture too widely, limiting close edge-following.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Edge-following accuracy was strong in testing, with the robot passing close enough to edges for effective debris pickup.
Aesthetic design and finish
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.3
Most reviewers liked the premium, futuristic look and dock finish, although one noted the glossy base shows smudges.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.7
Design opinions were mixed-to-negative: build looked acceptable, but styling was called old-fashioned or less premium than expected.
Hair‑Wrap / Tangle Resistance
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Hair-wrap resistance was one of the clearest strengths, with reviewers repeatedly reporting little to no tangling.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.2
Hair-wrap resistance was mixed: some reviewers praised anti-tangle design, while tests found long hair still tangled badly.
Bin and Bag
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.0
The dock bag system was praised for clean, easy auto-emptying, but one reviewer criticized the smaller onboard dustbin.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.5
The onboard dustbin drew repeated criticism for poor usable capacity and filling quickly, even though auto-empty helped.
Support and Reliability
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Reliability evidence was positive in one longer test where the dock performed as stated, though other reviews noted navigation and docking caveats under separate attributes.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.0
Reliability was mostly good, but one owner reported a map glitch that temporarily ruined the map.
Large debris handling
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.5
Large debris handling was adequate but not perfect in one hard-floor test, where some grains were scattered beyond the starting area.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.9
Large debris handling was strong, with review testing noting extra-large debris pickup.
Price and Value
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.6
Price drew the most consistent criticism: reviewers called it expensive or hard to justify, even when some felt the performance or investment case was strong.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.9
Value depended heavily on price: reviewers praised the premium system and discounts, but several called the MSRP expensive.
Odor control
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Dock drying and washing were credited with helping prevent odor and bacterial growth.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.3
Odor control depended on maintenance: hot-air drying helped, but dirty tanks could smell if neglected.
Weight
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.0
Weight feedback was positive for moving the base station, which one reviewer found light enough to carry.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.8
Weight was a drawback in one review, with the full system described as heavy.
Carpet — Low-Pile Pickup
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.6
Low-pile carpet pickup was mixed: one lab result was strong for rice, while another reviewer found an initial carpet debris pass disappointing.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Low-pile or surface-level carpet pickup was strong in stress-test language, especially after one or two passes.
Dried-On Stain Removal
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.7
Dried-on stain results were split: several reviewers praised strong multi-pass stain removal, while comparative and jelly tests found weaker stain handling.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.9
Dried-on stain removal was a major strength, including coffee, grape juice, and jelly tests with high marks.
Dock noise
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Dock noise was praised, especially quiet drying sequences.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.7
Dock noise was mixed: some found it barely audible, while another described mop cleanup sounds as horrible.
Comparative performance
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.8
Comparative performance was mixed: some reviewers placed it below certain Roborock siblings for specific strengths while others saw little separating the Saros models.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.9
Comparative performance was excellent, with reviewers placing it above several premium competitors in cleaning or feature value.
Water tank
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.3
Water-tank feedback was mixed: one reviewer found frequent refilling bothersome, while another framed occasional filling and emptying as simple.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.4
Water handling was easy and flexible, with large tanks praised and solution use described as optional.
Suitability for heavy-duty use
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
5.0
Heavy-duty suitability was strong in tests that pushed tough stains, high-pile carpet, and demanding cleaning jobs.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.0
Heavy-duty suitability was mixed: it handled commercial-style spaces well but was not a full replacement for manual mopping or vacuuming.
Area Rug Handling
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.3
Area rug handling was mostly positive because mop removal/lifting kept rugs dry, but one reviewer warned taller rugs can still contact the mop.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.4
Area-rug handling was mixed: mop lifting kept rugs dry, but pad edges could catch on rugs.
Stuck resistance
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.9
Stuck resistance was often excellent, with several reviewers saying it never got stuck, but low furniture and thresholds caused trouble in some homes.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.0
Stuck resistance was mixed: some reviewers reported no issues, while others saw socks, cords, or hair ties stop it.
Streaking / Residue
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.3
Streaking and residue were concerns in tough mopping tests and when the flat mop became saturated.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.1
Residue and streaking were mild concerns, including sticky invisible residue and possible streaks on glossy floors.
Crevice / Groove Pickup (Hard Floors)
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.5
Crevice and groove pickup was a limitation, with grout-line debris left behind in one test and poor grout cleaning in another.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.3
Crevice pickup was a weak spot on default power, although maximum power improved results.
Carpet — Medium-Pile Pickup
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.9
Medium-carpet evidence ranged from below-average embedded-sand results in one comparison to strong pickup in other real-world tests.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
Medium-pile carpet results were above average to excellent in multiple tests and home reviews.
Map and Path Efficiency (Robot Vacuums)
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.1
Mapping and pathing were generally accurate and efficient, but one reviewer saw room-label mistakes and another reported skipped areas.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.7
Mapping and path efficiency were widely praised for speed, precision, coverage, and stable maps.
Value-for-money
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.5
Value was mixed: some reviewers saw weak value versus cheaper competitors, while others called it strong for a flagship with broad capabilities.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.1
Value-for-money was split: Vacuum Wars called it exceptional, while one reviewer thought a cheaper Pro model cleaned similarly.
Floor Drying Time
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
5.0
One reviewer praised the light mopping mode for leaving the floor nearly dry by the end of cleaning.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.4
Floor drying was good in one review because mopping left little damp residue.
Noise level
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
5.0
One reviewer measured the robot as extremely quiet at maximum setting, giving noise a very positive showing.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.4
One reviewer found the robot quiet during mop washing/drying, with sound levels described positively.
Hair Pickup — Carpets
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.2
Carpet hair pickup was strong in direct dog-hair and long-hair tests, though one comparative review said another robot scored much better.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Hair pickup on carpets was strong for pet hair and general fluff, with several reviewers noting complete or effective pickup.
Controls and UI
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
Controls and UI were broadly praised, especially the app, remote control, voice controls, and spot-clean commands, with only minor usability caveats.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.1
The app and controls were usually praised as easy or excellent, though one owner found the UI hard to learn.
Obstacle Avoidance (Robot)
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
3.5
Obstacle avoidance was the most mixed major feature, ranging from excellent cable and pet-mess avoidance to failures with toys, cables, socks, and small objects.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.0
Obstacle avoidance was the most divided attribute, ranging from perfect lab results to poor cable and toy performance.
Hair Pickup — Hard Floors
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Hard-floor hair pickup was positive in one home with pet hair.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
5.0
Hard-floor hair pickup impressed a pet owner who felt dog hair collection was unusually thorough.
Self-cleaning cycle
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.0
Self-cleaning was mostly praised for reducing maintenance, though one jelly test found the mop was not fully cleaned afterward.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
The self-cleaning dock function was praised as rare even among flagship robots.
Solution / Liquid system
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.3
The detergent and liquid system was viewed positively, especially compared with manually mixing solution into clean water.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.7
The liquid system offered many water-flow options, which reviewers considered useful for mopping control.
Hair-removal channel issues
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
One reviewer praised the hair-removal channel design for drawing hair off the rollers and into the bin.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.1
Hair-removal features may reduce maintenance, but owner evidence also showed hair accumulating in bearings and sockets.
Maneuverability and Handling
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
5.0
Maneuverability was praised where the robot crossed thresholds, moved under furniture, and handled difficult floor transitions with ease.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
Maneuverability was strong in tight spaces and around obstacles, with precise navigation in test rooms and heavy-use spaces.
Mopping performance
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.3
Mopping performance was polarized: many reviewers praised daily maintenance and advanced stain modes, while others found spills, jelly, or standard-mode scrubbing weak.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
Mopping performance was one of the strongest themes, with many reviewers praising stain removal, wet-spill cleanup, and routine mopping.
Build quality and durability
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
One reviewer praised the build quality and component fit, describing the construction as improved and solid.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.2
Build quality was judged good by one reviewer despite the plastic-heavy appearance.
Heating element
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
The heating element was viewed as useful for freshening and washing the mop with very hot water.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.2
The dock’s hot-water mop washing was viewed as a useful part of its automated maintenance system.
Tool-change simplicity
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
5.0
Tool-change simplicity was praised through the automatic mop pad removal and reattachment system.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.7
Bag and mop-related replacements were described as simple, including easy bag replacement.
Overall cleaning convenience
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.9
Cleaning convenience was a major strength, with reviewers emphasizing hands-off operation and set-it-and-forget-it use.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
Overall cleaning convenience was a standout, reducing daily cleaning burden and making maintenance easier.
AI, Smart, App and Automation
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
App, AI, and automation were standout strengths, with reviewers praising SmartPlan, mapping, camera features, voice control, and the Roborock app.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.4
Smart features and the app were major strengths, though one owner disliked routine scheduling limitations.
Hard Floor — Large Debris Intake
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.4
Large hard-floor debris pickup was strong overall, although some scattering remained in isolated tests.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
Hard-floor large debris intake was strong, including rice and extra-large debris, though side-brush scatter sometimes remained.
Suction and Airflow
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.3
Reviewers generally found suction powerful and vacuuming strong on hard floors and carpets, though a few tests said the headline Pa rating did not always translate into flawless pickup.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.1
Reviewers found real-world suction and pickup strong on carpets and hard floors, though bench airflow and suction measurements were sometimes unimpressive.
Edge and Baseboard Cleaning (Hard Floors)
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
Edge and baseboard cleaning was usually praised, with reviewers noting strong wall and corner pickup, although one test called it decent rather than perfect.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Edge and baseboard cleaning was a strength thanks to close edge passes and extendable mop/brush behavior.
Docking and Auto-Empty Reliability (Robot)
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.3
Docking and auto-empty reliability was mostly positive, but one reviewer reported occasional incomplete docking that left the robots offline.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Docking and auto-empty reliability were mostly strong, with powerful auto-empty and automated washing/drying, though one owner reported a docking incident.
Mop lifting system
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.9
The mop lifting and automatic mop detachment system was widely praised for protecting carpets and reducing manual intervention.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.7
Mop lifting was consistently useful for keeping carpets and rugs dry and handling mixed flooring.
Ease of use
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Ease of use was strong across setup, room editing, voice control, and hands-off operation.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.7
Ease of use was strong overall, especially through app routines, room selection, and clear controls.
Floorhead design
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Floorhead design received positive feedback for the side brush and anti-tangle brush concepts improving pickup and hair handling.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.7
The floorhead and dual rollers were praised for capable pickup across crumbs, fluff, hair, and debris.
Innovation compared to competitors
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Reviewers treated the Saros 10 as an advanced, innovation-forward robot, especially because of its retractable navigation, adaptive lift, and hands-off dock.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.7
Innovation was supported by rare flagship-level features such as self-cleaning dock functions and advanced automation.
Runtime
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Runtime was considered sufficient to strong in real use, with reviewers reporting enough battery for most homes or impressive single-charge cleaning.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.7
Runtime and area coverage per charge were above average in reviewer testing.
Versatility
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
5.0
Versatility was praised because users could deeply customize features or leave the robot to run simply and automatically.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Reviewers saw the robot as versatile across floor types, combining vacuuming, mopping, app control, and dock automation.
Overall opinion
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Overall sentiment was strongly positive, but tempered by repeated tradeoffs around price, mopping consistency, and obstacle avoidance.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.7
Overall opinion was strongly positive, with multiple reviewers calling it a top premium robot or one of their best purchases.
Maintenance requirements
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Maintenance requirements were viewed favorably because the dock and self-maintenance features handled most routine tasks.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.4
Maintenance was generally easy and automated, though filters, tanks, and brushes still required attention.
Pet-Ready Features
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Pet-focused evidence was positive: reviewers reported effective cleaning after cats and dogs and described the robot as suited to busy pet homes.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
Pet owners praised the robot’s dog and cat hair cleanup, while pet-oriented avoidance and photo features added household usefulness.
Assembly and Setup
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Setup was consistently described as quick, straightforward, or less intimidating than expected.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
Setup was consistently described as easy or straightforward across app-based and reviewer testing.
Hard Floor — Fine Dust Pickup
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
Hard-floor fine-dust pickup was consistently strong, with reviewers noting excellent or near-complete pickup.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.7
Hard-floor fine dust pickup was repeatedly strong, with near-perfect sweeping and strong single-pass pickup in tests.
Battery and Charging
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Battery and charging were considered sufficient to strong, with praise for real-use endurance and fast charging.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.6
Battery and charging performance were described as good, with above-average efficiency in reviewer testing.
Under-Furniture Pickup
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Under-furniture cleaning was a standout strength when clearances matched the retractable sensor design.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.7
Under-furniture pickup was praised in large-space use where it cleaned beneath piles of chairs.
Corner Cleaning (Robot)
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Corner cleaning was generally strong thanks to side brush and side mop behavior.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Corner cleaning was praised because the extending side brush and mop helped reach true corners.
Clogging and debris prevention
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Clogging and debris-prevention evidence was positive where auto-emptying worked even with a hair-filled bin.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
Clogging and debris prevention was positive in dock testing, where suction was strong enough to clear the robot bin effectively.
Emptying and Mess Control
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
5.0
One reviewer praised mess control because the robot did not drop collected dirt or litter over thresholds.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
5.0
Emptying and mess control were strong in one dock test, where suction cleared the robot bin thoroughly.
Accessories and Tools
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and MopNo score yet
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.0
Included accessories were basic but useful, with one reviewer specifically appreciating the plug adapter.
Adaptive chassis lift
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.8
Adaptive chassis lift was one of the most praised hardware features, helping with thresholds, deep-pile carpet, and unusual obstacles.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and MopNo score yet
Bag-full indicator
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and MopNo score yet
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.5
Bag-full indication was criticized because one reviewer said it did not remind them to empty the bag.
Carpet — High-Pile Pickup
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
5.0
High-pile carpet handling was strongly praised, with AdaptiLift helping the robot keep moving and vacuuming.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and MopNo score yet
Cord management
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.0
Cord management was criticized because the base-station power cord was unusually thick and harder to route neatly.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and MopNo score yet
Debris illumination
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
The headlight was praised for illuminating dust and debris in darker corners.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and MopNo score yet
Dirty water sensor
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and MopNo score yet
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.3
Dirty-water detection was appreciated when it triggered or could trigger remopping, though one test did not activate it.
Filter-change indicator
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and MopNo score yet
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and Mop
2.5
Filter-change guidance was criticized because one reviewer felt the filter needed cleaning more often than the app suggested.
Floor shine after cleaning
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
One reviewer linked the cleaning result to sparkling-looking floors after regular use.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and MopNo score yet
Headlight and LED lights
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.5
One reviewer praised the LED headlight as a useful touch for darker corners.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and MopNo score yet
Privacy controls
Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum and Mop
4.3
Privacy-related camera controls were viewed positively because the robot announces remote viewing and keeps photo/video features off by default.
Roborock Qrevo Master Robot Vacuum and MopNo score yet